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jhetley ([personal profile] jhetley) wrote2008-11-08 09:05 am

The difference between Republicans and Democrats . . .

. . . lies mainly in which rights they think we can get along just fine without. 

The other side of the coin, counterpoint to all the unconstitutional excesses of the Bush Debacle:  Gun shops experiencing an uptick in sales, in the face of a bad economy.

http://www.bangornews.com/detail/92892.html


" . . . shall not be infringed."
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[personal profile] wolfette 2008-11-08 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
what would you use an AK47 for in the wilds of Maine?

[identity profile] jhetley.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 04:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Our recent problems have involved black bears going after livestock. Two or three shot in the space of a week, down-east.

I think I'd prefer something a bit more potent, for either moose or bear.
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[personal profile] wolfette 2008-11-08 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
goodness! no need to be rude ;-)

[identity profile] jhetley.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Some people actually use them for hunting. With a 5-round magazine, of course, because that's the legal limit.

Myself, I prefer something more accurate. However, definitions get slippery. The US Army used to issue the M1903-A3 rifle to troops, better known as the .30-06 Springfield. That _is_ the type of rifle and cartridge I used to use for deer hunting.

Several of the proposed bans have included "military-issue weapons" without further definition.

[identity profile] trilca.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, as was just adjucated this past summer or fall, our 2nd Amendment rights shall NOT be infringed, especially when it concerns any sort of total ban such as Washington D.C. has to now fix. As the daughter of a legally registered law-abiding firearms dealer, I grew up with firearms in my life from before I can remember. My sons have both grown up with guns in their lives, and my husband owns several of those "military issue weapons" such as his treasured M1 Garand. I think if there were any attempt to blanket-ban military issue weapons, the outcry and uproar would be beyond belief. It's bad enough they ban other stupid stuff "For Our Safety (and Their Control of Us)", but there is a limit and I'm pretty sure they're at or close to at our limits as it is.

Ugh *steps off her soapbox* sorry for the lecture!
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[identity profile] unixronin.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Barack Obama has already shown his "respect" (and I use the word loosely) for not just the Second Amendment, but the Constitution as a whole. He is on record recently as apparently lamenting that the Constitution does not give the government the power to do things like enforced redistribution of wealth.

[identity profile] johnpalmer.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 08:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, his students of Constitutional Law all agree... no, wait, they don't. (Steerike three! Yer out!)
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[identity profile] unixronin.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
John, WTF are you babbling about this time?

(Aside: I wonder what he taught his students that the Second Amendment means....)

[identity profile] johnpalmer.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 10:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Hint: he taught Constitutional law, and none of his students think the word "respect" needs to be scare quoted nor used loosely.
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[identity profile] unixronin.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
7.62x39 is a dandy little cartridge for coyote and small deer (whitetails, say).

[identity profile] jhetley.livejournal.com 2008-11-08 06:41 pm (UTC)(link)
In the interests of international clarity here, I have to add that we are not discussing true AK47 "assault rifles", just as the weapons in that newspaper photo are not true M-16s. The discussion centers on "civilian" versions, capable of semi-automatic fire only.

Full-auto weapons require a special Federal license, expensive and difficult to get. The same applies to various other non-sport weapons.